on the one side is president obama and governor romney. someone who actually made the case for shutting down fema. in passing the responsibility on to the states and some people say maybe we're learning a lesson. how do you deal with something like that? >> absolutely every time you have an occasion that takes something from the federal government and sends it back to the states, that's the right direction. and if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. >> governor romney says it would be better to privatize fema. that's jarring and so was his reason. >> we're borrowing $1.6 trillion more than we're taking in. we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. it is simply immoral. for us to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids knowing full well that we'll be dead and gone before it occurs makes no sense at all. >> with eight days to go in this election, that is the choice in this election. do we want a president that believes government can